possibly thaelia -- not sure about this whole diggers clan though; i share your doubts, sandy.

After a bit of exploring (which I could have done before typing the above), I've gone ahead and registered the clan.  Join it in the palace if you want.  And the sooner we can get a player more frequently logged in than I am as the leader, the better.

Sandy

i'm in for a digger's clan, sandy.
my digger has magic lvl slightly above his lvl, though no speed, which means he can't fight the toughest monsters he sees.  but i'd be up for giving him a luck and/or pack size boost (when we finally get that far with the clan).  and the good thing about diggers... regardless of how many rooms we put in our clan, we'll never have a problem keeping the money flowing in to upkeep the buildings.
i'll sign up "simply digging" when i get home from work tonight.  i'm fairly busy til sunday night, so unless we get 10 signed up by the end of work tomorrow, i won't be able to accept the first mission until sunday or monday.
--jason

I'll sign up with my pure digger: Rhiannon Fae, lvl 34 (diamond shovel, yay!).  I know the first clan mission is doable with diggers; random digging around larkinor found a relic for another character.  This will be fun.

My digger (Almagorte) would love to be part of this clan.  He has 39 magic, so hopefully that will help with building the clan house.

Nyin

go away would love to be in this clan

he just needs to stop long enough to come back to Lark. probably tomorrow.

-Tad

Bagger has applied, he is from a non-sub nick I have but I might just sub him now the game is moving forwards..... he has 64 luck at lvl 25 and will now be motivated to improve....

Hi

 Szczesny has applied, lvl 22 with 84 luck.
I also have Acarapi, if needed.

The clan is now active, and the first mission begun.  I dunno how quickly a digger can do these missions, but assuming we can do it quickly, I propose waiting at least a few weeks before we officially mark the first mission as complete.  I suggest this because anyone joining the clan after we complete a mission will be forever unable to get the clan points for that mission, and may or may not (remains to be seen how it works exactly) be able to get the full clan bonuses as a result.

I'd rather talk about this in our nifty new [url=

http://larkinorguide.com/forum

]clan forum

/url], of course...

Sandy

Hi guys, assuming that the relics are in the same places for everyone, I know where the first two are...if you want to know, tell me.

Xerxes just signed up

level 72
163 luck

-B

To anyone still thinking about joining:

The Digger Clan members have agreed to delay the completion of the first mission until January 20th.  Join before then, and you won't miss out on the first 10 clan points.

Sandy 

Uh-oh, Jan 20, I guess that the above mentioned several week waiting period is not considered any more. And I have a clan-boot cool-off period of 12 days to go.

Anyway, it is not all clear with the clan missions, levels and bonuses. It is probably meant to be learned by trial and error.

My guess is that there are 6 clan missions anticipated so far: 1. Relics; 2. Forge cornerstone; 3. Place cornerstone; 4. Build clan house; 5. Build storage room; 6. Build bar. Now, one clan has apparently finished the first three and the members have 40 individual clan points.
Let's say that all 6 will bring a total maximum of 200-300 points. If memory serves me right, one needs 100 points for level two, meaning that the maximum clan level any individual character can reach is probably 3. The question is: are the 40(ish) points for the first two missions going to make a difference regarding the clan level (which may increase luck by three), or the extra mushroom is better added to luck directly. On the other hand, according to Help, Luck Bonus would increase luck at least by 2, so the end result is the same as with CL = 3 and the mushroom spent on a clan mission.

The point of this long story is: it may not be all that bad if a digger joins a clan AFTER the first two missions are completed. Participation in the remaining ones may yield enough points to reach the same result with regard to luck. Therefore, if you guys go ahead with the missions, I will still probably apply later with my digger when I can, that is, of course, if you'll have me, but the discussion stands for all diggers and clans.

Or, I may be completely off course.

EG

I started a poll after getting your request a few days ago, EG.  The results are not complete, but it does seem quite likely that we'll be waiting the two weeks or so as some of our members are not capable of gaining an imp's mushroom yet, so there is little point in rushing into mission #2.

I'll keep you and other prospective members up to date in this thread.

Sandy

I see in the clan rules that one should apply NOW and I still have 6 days to go. Has the decision been made regarding the start of the activities?

Tx, EG

I have noticed that after the clan house is built, if a new member wants to join, they still have to do the cornerstone mission so waiting won't save anyone an imps mushroom, it looks like if you want into a clan you have to use an imps mushroom....

We're currently planning to mark the first mission complete on Monday, February 2nd.

Sandy

:( ive gotta wait 9 days for shoveler

Two more days until the end of my digger's cool off period, then he'll apply.

I am looking at the member list. There is one char with a decent magic skill and maybe one or two with some dexterity. No digger/fighter chars! Is that going to be enough to fend off the monsters while building the house? Hmm.

EG

I've posted on that very topic in our [url=

http://larkinorguide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61

]private forum

/url].

The short answer is: yes.

Sandy

Sandy,

Yes, I gathered that you may have been discussing that on the private forum, judging from the number of posts. But alas, I cannot read it.

I only ask because there still may be interested people who ponder whether their chars could effectively contribute, and also you invited thoughts in the first sentence of this thread.

EG

Understood!  I'm about to post more details of how traps work on this forum.  I've spent the morning exploring them, much to the benefit of my KV clanmates.

Sandy

I can't apply for your clan until the 3rd of Feb :(
the only thing i hope will make you wait the extra day is that ive used thousands of clicks and have finally obtained the mushie needed.

Shoveler, lvl 36, 125 luck, +3 magic :)

Will

make that level 37, 127 luck, +3 magic :p

Will

i also now have the 21 flasks needed :)

Will

i say we wait the extra day.  will's got a good digger, and it's only 1 extra day.  and he's ready for the building clanhouse mission, whereas i think there are still some in our clan who aren't.
--jason

thanks Jason :)

Waiting won't harm anything.  Rhiannon Fae still has a little over 13 mil to level and 0 clicks; so she probably won't be completing her mission until v-day.

Note that those talking about completing missions, etc, are talking about the ability to complete the SECOND mission, not the first.  We're a little ahead of the game here.  Just because we're strategically waiting until we can complete the second before making the first as complete, doesn't mean we HAVE to wait until we can complete the second until we mark the first as complete!

Anyway...!  I agree with waiting.  I'm in no rush.

Sandy

yay thanks Sandy :)

> yay thanks Sandy

Again, group decision.  This message was paid for by the "Campaign to Ensure Sandy isn't Seen as a Dictator".

It seems as though we are delaying another week, actually.  tadpole is gone until the 8th, meaning if we complete the first mission now, and start the second, it wouldn't actually start until tadpole gets back (at the earliest).

If anyone else wants to join, you have another 6 or 7 days to do so without missing out on any clan points.

Sandy

>Campaign to Ensure Sandy isn't Seen as a Dictator

C.E.S.S.?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cess

Hi

thank you for letting me join ur clan.

Well, you're welcome.  Are you much of a digger?!  Your stats say "robber" more than "digger".

Sandy

Hello,

I would like to join this digging clan and I have a question.  In the clan house it says check the missions to make sure you can do them.  I can't find that.  I am lvl 25 with 68 luck.  Not much fight in me or magic.  SHould I still apply??????

Thanks!

almost all diggers in our clan cannot fight very well.  so yes, you can still apply.  for mission info, you can look up the thread "Clans' info." (currently still on the first page of this larkinor forum).  however, we are currently in the midst of missions, and if you're not ready/able to make a life-essence, you will hold us up.  see the thread "Muscles0034 / Lucky Irish" for options on how to minimize this delay (that's another char applying for membership right now).  after reading those two posts, let us know if you still want to join, and if you can join immediately (ready to make the life-essence) or if you want your membership to be put on hold until we're done, or if you'd like to forget about the clan.
--jason

Thanks for the reply Jason,

How soon will you need the life essence made?  As a digger, money is not a problem.  Waiting for the right ingredients to come on the market is another issue.  If I have a week to do this I can make it.  If you need it sooner it might be more difficult.

What would you suggest?

I went to check about the imp mushroom and I will be able to get one very easily.  I haven't done many of those missions with the digger- thank goodness!

>What would you suggest?

have all the ingredients ready before you get let in.  join our private forum on larkinorguide.com/forum and people can probably get the ingredients to you that you still need.  the two that people can't sell you are the imp's mushroom (which you've said you can get easily) and the 21 wonderflasks.  do you have them?  if not, how long do you figure it'd take?

--jason

I will get the ingredients and when I do I will inquire again.  I forgot about not being able to buy wonderflask in market.  I have 12 and will try with the balloon.  Your right, that might take awhile.  Is this how the clan members are going about getting the WF?

Thanks for the replies!!!!

subscribers can get flasks from sub-only pub missions.  higher level char's see monsters that drop flasks.  but yes, the balloon is generally how flasks have been obtained.  let us know when you get 21 of them, and we'll bring you into our clan at that point.
--jason

I now have the 21 flasks.  Is it too late to get involved with the clan or have they moved on to the next mission????

I also have the 21 essence pebbles and can make the 7 soul in a matter of minutes once let into the clan- again, assuming you haven't moved on to the next phase.

Uh oh.

I really hope you haven't built any of them.  We weren't 100% explicit.  You need the ingredients... not the item.  The item may be lost when you accept the clan missions.

Oh man.  Come into chat if you can.

Sandy

Beavis, go join the Digger's Clan mission!

Sandy

> I really hope you haven't built any of them. We weren't 100% explicit. You need the ingredients... not the item. The item may be lost when you accept the clan missions.

I'm still not being explicit.  To be prepared to join the clan at this point you need the following ingredients in your possession:

1 imp's mushroom
189 vampiric herb
63 diamond
21 wonderflask
35 earthspell
21 honey balm
7 egoplasm

Any essence-pebbles, soulplasters or life essences you have already built before accepting the "Aquiring the Foundation Block" mission will be lost as you complete the "Ancient Relics" mission.

In addition to the above ingredients, you need to meet a clan leader or deputy in chat when you have enough time to immediately accept and complete the missions required to catch up to the rest of the clan.  At this moment, given the clan's current progress through the missions, this only takes a few minutes.

Sandy

pththth! :Þ

xerxes has joined.

-B

That figures!  I blew it.  I went ahead and made the pebbles.  I will try to see if I can get 21 WF in the next couple of days and check back.  My fault.  I jumped the gun!

>Any essence-pebbles, soulplasters or life essences you have already built before accepting the "Aquiring the Foundation Block" mission will be lost as you complete the "Ancient Relics" mission.

sandy, i don't believe newcomers will have to do the "ancient relics" mission, since there are no individual clanpoints available in it.  (not having joined a clan late, i don't know if they still have to accept and click it as finished or not).  if newcomers can join straight into the "forge cornerstone" mission, then the 21 pebbles *might* be okay?  i can't really say for sure.

only thing i know is... if we try to accept raider now, in the hopes that it's all okay, and it turns out to be not okay and he loses the items, then we either have to boot him or have him quit, and he can't join again for the whole waiting period (however long that is), or else we have to put all clan missions on hold til he gets the 21 flasks again and can remake the items.

--jason

Having joined the TA army after the relics mission was completed, I noticed that you did have to accept that mission before you could join the forge cornerstone mission.  Somewhere in that process, I lost a pre-made life-essence.  It seems likely that you'd also loose any pebbles.

Actually, you do have to do the first mission if you join late. I joined the digger clan, and had to do all of the missions. However, for the relics one, it was a simple case of clicking accept and then it automatically completed without me getting any clan points. The cornerstone and building would also have to be done, and could probably be completed simultaneously to other clan missions, provided the clan had accepted the later missions first, i.e. the current active clan mission wouldn't be stopped while waiting for a newcomer to complete the missions. Only new missions would be affected.

So Mombassa is suggesting that once we get the Build Clanhouse mission going (join Misko!), we can accept radier1127 into the clan without affecting the mission.  That sounds like it is worth a shot to me.  I propose the following if radier1127 is willing.

We accept him (pardon my assumption, but pronouns make talking about a person so much easier) into the clan.  He gets to the Forge Cornerstone mission, and sees if he still has his pebbles.  If he does, he catches up, no worries.  (See?  Six pronouns.)

If he looses his pebbles AND he's stopped all clan progress on the Build Clanhouse mission, he will be booted.  If progress on the Build Clanhouse mission is not stopped, he has the choice of attempting to catch up before we complete the clanhouse, or of being booted immediately so he can join that much sooner after the waiting period.

This seems worth a shot if radier1127 is worth trying it.

If a boot is required, the least we can do is refund him the second clan application fee when he finally becomes a clan member.  Heck, I'd give him the 21 wonderflasks if they were transferrable.  I feel strangely guilty for putting a new player in the unenviable position of exploring the ins-and-outs of clans for us.

Sandy

I am willing to try.  No need to refund application fees on the second go around.  I appreciate the offer though.  I will apply and try the mission and see what happens.  If I loose everything, have to start over and am holding everyone else up- I will gladly accept being booted :).

Ack!  Not only did I accept the wrong application (Lucky Irish), it disabled our current mission.  Heck.  Sorry everyone.  I really should have gotten more sleep last night.

Muscles0034, repsond here as soon as possible.  If you can build the life-essence now, take this opportunity to do it and catch up to the current mission.  Since you're holding up the current clan mission (thanks to me, not your fault at all), we'll we'll have to boot you if we don't hear from you within a few hours.  Your application fee will definitely be refunded if we can meet in chat at some point.
 
radier1127, if you want, we can try joining you during this unplanned downtime.  We now know that new clan members disable the current mission, so if you don't get the chance to try this now, we'll have to meet up in chat or on the forum at another time so we can try it together... just in case a booting is required to minimize the mission downtime.

Sandy

Sign me up!  I will give it a try.

raider, you are accepted.  get through the first few missions as quickly as you can.  that'll hopefully minimize down-time for the rest of us, especially if muscles doesn't reply soon, in which case, sandy will be booting his char, and you'll be the only one holding us up.  you seem willing to work at it, so i figure we'll give you a shot.
--jason

oh, and keep us updated on your progress.  that's the best thing you can do.  if we don't hear from you, we assume you're not doing anything, and then we have cause to boot you.  if you let us know where you're at regularly (when you've accepted and completed the relics mission and started the forge cornerstone... and then how close you are to finishing your life-essence), then we know you're working, and we'll encourage and help when possible.
--jason

I'm about to head out for the weekend.  Jason, it's in your hands.  I think we're agreed on the steps:

- Sir Digs gets booted if he can't produce the life essence quickly
- Lucky Irish gets booted either when Sir Digs does, or when Sir Digs has joined the Build Clanhouse mission

Seems fair to me.  And again, both are welcome to join again, and due to my mistake, my offer to personally reimburse clan fees applies to both characters.

Sandy

I got inside the clan and accepted the first two missions and I lost the 21 essence pebbles so I am going to have to start over.  I went ahead and quit the clan so you wouldn't be held up by me.  I will work on those WF again and let you know when I am done.  Thank you for trying!

hey 
i haven't been active on larkinor for ages but am intrigued by this diggers clan i wud be interested in joining and thanks to the good aul time of recession i have tons of spare time i am on gmt time so if youdon't meet me in chat over the next few days i'll post again here to arrange a suitable time

Hi the4horses,

The clan is in the middle of a mission right now and will not be accepting new members until it is complete.  If you would like to join the clan after we are done this mission and before we start the next one, you will have to be prepared to meet myself or Jason in chat and catch up 

immediately

 (which will take about 3 hours, about 5000 clicks, 21 wonderflasks and some other minor stuff).  If you are not ready to do that, you will have to wait until we are done all our clan missions before we can accept your application.  Let me know.

Sandy

at the moment i am having trouble getting the wonderflasks any idea how i could get them?

i just got the answer in chat will be in contact again when i have the full list of items mentioned earlier in this thread