FlyOrDie.com
« Back to All Topics
Magic levels connected to Leveling?
Magic levels connected to Leveling?
Magic levels connected to Leveling?
I generally know how Larkinor works but here I'm stuck. I've been building my first mage and everything seems to be going great! I'm at level 17 and have a magic level of 20. Unfortunately, no matter how many Intelligence points I amass (I have 42 or so right now) I can't seem to raise his magic level to anything more than 3 over his real level. My percentage next to the magic level on my player info page goes up extremely slowely until I level it then almost immediately jumps by 90 someodd percentage points. I'm sure you experienced guys know what I'm talkin' 'bout. Is it imposible to advance more quickly? 
Thanks.
Bel'al
As you hit the middle levels (25-32) you will see your magic jump up a few more levels passed you experience level.
Thx and I also had a thought. Since Your magic level goes up  according to the manapoints used, If you did 4.8 trillion homeports or made 3.8 Billion magic weapons, you could concievably raise your Magic level much higher than your level. Of course who has the clicks and time to do that. It would just be a fun experiment. After three years or so, someone could have the most powerful level 20 Mage ever. 

Bel'al
Or jsut fight a couple hundred monsters and run before you kill them :p
r u sure that you get the points if you don't kill the monster? I thought that I tested this and found that you must kill it. could be wrong though. 

Bel'al
if 
x
 is the amount of mana used to increase your magic level by 1 above your experience level.....

Level+2 is 10x
level+3 is 100x
Level+4 is 1,000x
Level+5 is 10,000x

etc

Thats the reason why it slows down so much
To add to that, when you level, you get some bonus "mana xp." I think it's for character class balancing purposes.
I think Veriac provides an answer here to a question I have seen in a number of threads, and been wondering about.  The magic "bonus" achieved on leveling is the application of a conversion rate from level+X magic to level + (X-1) magic.  For example, lets say you are at magic level= exp level+4 and 95% of the  way towards +5.  When you level, the 95% is converted to the appropriate % towards +4 since your exp level has increased but magic level has not.  This often results in an apparent "bonus" in magical skill.  The formula Veriac quoted would result in a beneficial conversion of 10x your prior progress, but of course there would be a coincident effect that the new higher level has more "expensive" magic levels than the old.  From other discussions I gather that the mana usage requirement for magic leveling varies from level to level, this would explain the non-uniform results, i.e. sometimes you get a big "bonus", other times not.  Long story short (too late), no benefit to hold at 99% to get your "bonus", there is no bonus.  What say Ye, Veriac?
Addendum:  I think my previous analysis was correct, but the conclusion was wrong.  I now believe that it should be benficial to hold magic at 99% when close to gaining an experience level.  Someone please save me from this mental torture!
This is no secret, I was commenting on this all too often in chat. 2 days ago when Mia levelled up, I resorted to stealing and even digging to maintain 99% on levelups. 

On the numerical data, I hardly ever made precise testing, but I've monitored percentage changes in levelups for the last 20-30 levels of my two mages(they can be found in the hun-topic). I realised +66%, +79%, +28% rises which I can suddenly remember. Of course, this rate decreases the higher magic you have. The "par value" of plus magic for your level is lvl/10. This means that for a level 45-54 mage, +5 magic skill is an average, for 55-64 mage it's +6. If you can hold on to a lower-than-"par" skill, your bonus will be much higher from my experience.
oh, and the bonus will multiply what you have as a current percentage before you level up. Therefore, 99% before lvl-up is actually the best thing you can have. However, do not "overforce" 99%, once you reach it-be sure to hold it there. I remember a time when I got no bonus. I can only hasard a guess that although it said 99% on my char-page, the database actually contained something close to 99.99 magic skill and considered it 100%. I was kind of upset.:)

What I can account for with numerical data though: I started constructing with Mia at lvl 36. I maintained lvl+4 magic skill on each levelup, with a 66-67% extra on skill. I did 1/3 of the level on TA armies, going to 99% skill. Then I built 2/3 of each level, and on levelup, I dropped back to +3 magic, but from 99% I got to 166-167%, therefore back to +4. I kept building till about lvl 42-43.
Languages
English
Tiếng Anh
azərbaycan
Tiếng Azerbaijan
bosanski
Tiếng Bosnia
čeština
Tiếng Séc
Cymraeg
Tiếng Wales
dansk
Tiếng Đan Mạch
Deutsch
Tiếng Đức
eesti
Tiếng Estonia
English
Tiếng Anh
español
Tiếng Tây Ban Nha
euskara
Tiếng Basque
français
Tiếng Pháp
hrvatski
Tiếng Croatia
Indonesia
Tiếng Indonesia
isiZulu
Tiếng Zulu
íslenska
Tiếng Iceland
italiano
Tiếng Italy
latviešu
Tiếng Latvia
lietuvių
Tiếng Litva
magyar
Tiếng Hungary
Malti
Tiếng Malta
Melayu
Tiếng Mã Lai
Nederlands
Tiếng Hà Lan
norsk
Tiếng Na Uy
o‘zbek
Tiếng Uzbek
polski
Tiếng Ba Lan
português
Tiếng Bồ Đào Nha
română
Tiếng Romania
shqip
Tiếng Albania
slovenčina
Tiếng Slovak
slovenščina
Tiếng Slovenia
suomi
Tiếng Phần Lan
svenska
Tiếng Thụy Điển
Tagalog
Tiếng Tagalog
Tiếng Việt
Tiếng Việt
Türkçe
Tiếng Thổ Nhĩ Kỳ
Vlaams
Flemish
Võro
Võro
Ελληνικά
Tiếng Hy Lạp
български
Tiếng Bulgaria
кыргызча
Tiếng Kyrgyz
русский
Tiếng Nga
српски
Tiếng Serbia
українська
Tiếng Ukraina
עברית
Tiếng Do Thái
العربية
Tiếng Ả Rập
فارسی
Tiếng Ba Tư
हिन्दी
Tiếng Hindi
ไทย
Tiếng Thái
ქართული
Tiếng Georgia
中文
Tiếng Trung
日本語
Tiếng Nhật
한국어
Tiếng Hàn