"Hi. The evolution theory is no more a theory but a fact, believe it or not!!" the junior evolutionnist said. "Hi. I don't believe humans in the 21st century can be so dumb, deaf and blind to the gigantic masquarade the evolution theory made!! Let's talk shortly abt who was Darwin. He was the son of a priest (with whom he passed all his youth arguing, fighting abt belief in God). He was a botanist (nothing to do with anything he elaborated to make his evolution theory abt the human nature or his morphology in any way). He was a philantropist who used to study insects (even their taste when he was near-death asphixated by a bug he did know nothing about). He used to study primates in particular gorillas and one day he went to the place they live in. Once arrived there, a black african country, he saw how humans live (19th century) and how gorillas live, it didn't took him long to make an analogy and comparaison btw the 2 kinds. And finally he used to work with an archaic microscope to make his studies compared to today's technological modern microscopes, his was definitely light years far from the DNA molecule discovery and existence. DNA molecule you find in humans, animals including insects and plants and everything". "I don't believe it". "What don't you believe?" "I don't believe anything you said!" "Why?" "I hadn't read nowhere this biography". "Google it if you didn't know, but have you look further abt him before you dived deep into the evolution theory or it dosen't matter who was he as long as all evo scientists took his theory as a Gospel?". "I don't know any of this". "Anyway, you said earlier the evolution theory is no more a theory but a fact. Can you tell me what fact is there? A tangible fact of everything tangible around?" "..." "What did you say, I didn't hear you?" "..." "Sorry couldn't hear you. Speak louder, please". "I don't know any real facts but evo scientists said there is so I believed them". "Really!? Don't you have anything factual even if it's microscopic?!". "Allright, you're right when you said the evolution theory is nothing factual but words only". "Isn't more plausible to believe God the Creator if there's no tangible palpable evolution fact?". "I don't know". "I see. If the Scripture tells abt facts that modern science confirm doesn't this confirm the Scripture isn't a banal man-made book but a real Scripture?". "I don't know. Do you have any examples?". "There's many. I'll show you some".
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Personally, I think a lot of people haven’t really looked into Darwin’s full background, or evolution itself, beyond what they were taught early on. Whether someone accepts the theory or not, it’s good to challenge ideas and examine the origins. I’m curious, what examples you had in mind from Scripture that science now confirms?
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Hey, When someone says "evolution is just a theory," they're actually missing how scientists use that word. In science, a "fact" is something we've seen happen over and over (like how living things actually change over time). And a "theory" isn't just a guess; it's a super strong explanation for those facts, backed up by mountains of proof. Think of it like gravity – it's a "theory," but it's also a definite fact that apples fall down! Honestly, who Charles Darwin was or what kind of old microscope he had back then doesn't really matter today. Science stands on what we can actually prove, and we've learned so much more since his time, especially about DNA.
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@ all evo enthusiasts Would you kindly answer all the real questions made in the fake conversations? Because, you (plural pronoun) hadn't show anything considered to be a fact of its evolution. Till now, i only see words as evolution theory is.
As I mentioned in my previous post to you - read the books that I mentioned.
You keep on about nothing tangible in Darwin's Theory of Evolution, but you don't give any explanation on how events in your religious books happen, except god did it.
Prove your god did these things WITHOUT using any scripture or religious text. Prove your god exists again WITHOUT using any scripture or religious text. If you can do that then you will have a valid argument.
All you seem to do is waffle on about how your god was perfect, even though he wiped out the whole of humanity and 99.999% of life with one global flood.
Your god killed and murdered more people than Lucifer (according to the Bible about 8 people) - so who was the evil one?
I agree with the poster earlier about your confusion of theory - see below for the difference between mathmatical theories and science theories.
Mathematical Theories:
Construction:
Mathematical theories are constructed by starting with a set of axioms (fundamental assumptions) and definitions, then using logical deduction to prove theorems.
Internal Consistency:
A mathematical theory must be internally consistent, meaning it does not contain any contradictions.
Deductive Proofs:
Proofs in mathematics are deductive, meaning they rely on logical reasoning from axioms and previously proven theorems.
Not Empirical:
Mathematical theories are not tested through experiments. Their truth is established through logical proof.
Examples:
Number theory, set theory, group theory.
Scientific Theories:
Explanation:
Scientific theories are explanations of natural phenomena, based on empirical evidence and observation.
Testability:
A key characteristic of a scientific theory is its testability; it must make predictions about the natural world that can be tested through experiments.
Falsifiability:
Scientific theories are not proven, but rather supported by evidence. They remain open to revision or rejection if contradictory evidence is found.
Empirical Basis:
Scientific theories are built upon observations and experiments, and their validity depends on how well they explain and predict observed phenomena.
Examples:
Theory of evolution, theory of relativity, germ theory of disease.
Key Differences:
Nature of Proof:
Mathematical theories are proven through deductive logic, while scientific theories are supported by empirical evidence and are subject to ongoing testing and refinement.
Truth Status:
Mathematical theories are considered true within their axiomatic system, while scientific theories are considered well-substantiated explanations that can be revised or rejected as new evidence emerges.
Role of Experimentation:
Experimentation is central to the development and validation of scientific theories, but it plays no role in proving mathematical theories.
Now go away and stop trying to look intelligent - it isn't working.Proof that God exists. How do we know of anything existed before us? Through what remained of their trace. You know the Pharaos existed bc you see the pyramids. You know Mayan , Aztec, bc you see their pyramid. You know previous people existed bc they made a trace of their passage on earth, like ancient civilizations or random people like writers, musician, known or not. Their fingerprint is visible to everyone exactly like God. If one goes by saying God is the Creator, he sees what does He create. Everything littrally. If one goes by saying God is Useful, he sees that everything created is useful. And Evolution is nothing but a Regression or Stagnation. What had evolved is their belief of common ancestor btw man and apes. Originally, it was directly from apes that man evolved.
You still haven't proven that god exists. Perhaps every thing was created by a magical unicorn. Just prove god exists - not using any holy book or scriptures. Just saying god exists and created everything is NOT proof. You are right - there is proof that ancient civillations existed and the proof is there to see - but this proof does NOT prove god exists. Religion is a manmade concept - I dare you to watch "The Invention of Lying" - a film writen by Ricky Gervais - then again you won't as it will show you how utterly absurd religion is.
You're denying yourself by trying to deny my reasoning even a kid would call you names. If you were smart, you wouldn't need anyone to prove you God existence. A smart guy inquire things surronding him in the world and conclude by himself if anything is created by God or due to evolution. If one was smart, he'd see that this theory was made by dumb people exclusively for dumb people and supported by dumb people. How so?! Chance and Chaos did everything, allegedly, through billions years process. lol If you watch dumb people like Dawkins and co you surely can't get out from the darkness of the evolution. Bonus: Each artist painter left his signature on his painting to let everyone know his painting, and God, has left his name as a signature, visible to everyone on human body.